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Once, when I was sad, I asked Jesus, "How much do you love me?"

First there came a smile, sweet and soothing, and then his calm but touchy words, "This much!"

He stretched out his arms and died for me in Calvary!


God bless and keep you.]]>

Once, when I was sad, I asked Jesus, "How much do you love me?"

First there came a smile, sweet and soothing, and then his calm but touchy words, "This much!"

He stretched out his arms and died for me in Calvary!


God bless and keep you.]]> <![CDATA[The Ship wreck]]> http://christiansjoint.com/forum/thread-6749.html Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:49:17 +0000 http://christiansjoint.com/forum/thread-6749.html


The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited island. He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he scanned the horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the elements, and to store his few possessions.
But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky. The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with grief and anger. "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.
Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a ship that was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him. "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his rescuers. "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.
It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the midst of pain and suffering.
Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground it just may be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

God bless]]>


The only survivor of a shipwreck was washed up on a small, uninhabited island. He prayed feverishly for God to rescue him, and every day he scanned the horizon for help, but none seemed forthcoming. Exhausted, he eventually managed to build a little hut out of driftwood to protect him from the elements, and to store his few possessions.
But then one day, after scavenging for food, he arrived home to find his little hut in flames, the smoke rolling up to the sky. The worst had happened; everything was lost. He was stunned with grief and anger. "God, how could you do this to me!" he cried.
Early the next day, however, he was awakened by the sound of a ship that was approaching the island. It had come to rescue him. "How did you know I was here?" asked the weary man of his rescuers. "We saw your smoke signal," they replied.
It is easy to get discouraged when things are going bad. But we shouldn't lose heart, because God is at work in our lives, even in the midst of pain and suffering.
Remember, next time your little hut is burning to the ground it just may be a smoke signal that summons the grace of God.

God bless]]> <![CDATA[Mysterious Providence]]> http://christiansjoint.com/forum/thread-6748.html Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:35:59 +0000 http://christiansjoint.com/forum/thread-6748.html
Jesus answered him, "You don't know what I am doing now, but you will understand later." - John 13:7
Like many other words of Christ, this saying of His has a much wider application than its primary reference to Peter's perplexity. It furnishes the key to very many of the providences of all our lives. We do not understand them at the time. We do not see how they can have any blessing in them for us. They seem altogether dark. But we have no right to judge of our Master's work in us or with us until it is finished. “What I do thou knowest not now.” How could we be expected to understand all the Master's great thoughts?
Yet this is not the end. “Thou shalt know hereafter.” This mystery is to be explained. This perplexity is to be resolved into the clearness of noonday. You do not understand now because you cannot yet see the end, cannot perceive the blessing and the beauty. The Master Himself knows just what He is going to bring out of each strange work of His, and therefore He is not perplexed. Then, He says that we also shall know hereafter. We shall see the cloud as it departs, glorified by the rainbow arching its dark folds. We shall see the tangles resolving into lovely grace and beauty.
Some time, when all life's lessons have been learned,
And sun and stars for evermore have set,
The things which our weak judgments here have spurned,
The things o'er which we grieved with lashes wet,
Will flash before us, out of life's dark night,
As stars shine most in deeper tints of blue;
And we shall see how all God's plans were right,
And how what seemed reproof was love most true.
What is the lesson? That we should trust God when we cannot understand His ways with us. No doubt love has planned them all. No doubt there is blessing in the outcome as it lies now in God's mind. No doubt we shall see the blessing, too, hereafter.]]>
Jesus answered him, "You don't know what I am doing now, but you will understand later." - John 13:7
Like many other words of Christ, this saying of His has a much wider application than its primary reference to Peter's perplexity. It furnishes the key to very many of the providences of all our lives. We do not understand them at the time. We do not see how they can have any blessing in them for us. They seem altogether dark. But we have no right to judge of our Master's work in us or with us until it is finished. “What I do thou knowest not now.” How could we be expected to understand all the Master's great thoughts?
Yet this is not the end. “Thou shalt know hereafter.” This mystery is to be explained. This perplexity is to be resolved into the clearness of noonday. You do not understand now because you cannot yet see the end, cannot perceive the blessing and the beauty. The Master Himself knows just what He is going to bring out of each strange work of His, and therefore He is not perplexed. Then, He says that we also shall know hereafter. We shall see the cloud as it departs, glorified by the rainbow arching its dark folds. We shall see the tangles resolving into lovely grace and beauty.
Some time, when all life's lessons have been learned,
And sun and stars for evermore have set,
The things which our weak judgments here have spurned,
The things o'er which we grieved with lashes wet,
Will flash before us, out of life's dark night,
As stars shine most in deeper tints of blue;
And we shall see how all God's plans were right,
And how what seemed reproof was love most true.
What is the lesson? That we should trust God when we cannot understand His ways with us. No doubt love has planned them all. No doubt there is blessing in the outcome as it lies now in God's mind. No doubt we shall see the blessing, too, hereafter.]]> <![CDATA[IS FLIRTING ON THE INTERNET, CONSIDERED CHEATING?]]> http://christiansjoint.com/forum/thread-6747.html Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:04:19 +0000 http://christiansjoint.com/forum/thread-6747.html
If someone is married, why would they think it’s permissible to flirt with anyone other than with their spouse? Not only are they putting themselves into a vulnerable situation where they can fall into temptation (even if they “fool” themselves into thinking they can’t be tempted— “fool” is the operative word here) but they’re playing with the emotions of someone else who shouldn’t be flirting back with someone who is married. It’s called being a “stumbling block” in tempting them to sin.

That other person may not know the person who is flirting with them is married. So, what if they build up romantic feelings for the flirting married person and they eventually find out that this person is married, is that fair? It puts them into a place of pain as they then have to make the decision to tear their heart away from someone they care for or they end up participating in cheating — either way, they lose.

I sure wouldn’t want that done to me if I were single! And I think the person who is flirting should consider that other persons’ feelings also. That’s really being cruel and inhumane to have so little compassion on the feelings of others — to be so insensitive that they would consider doing that to them!

I’m reminded of the Pharaoh of Egypt in Genesis 12 when Abram allowed his wife to be passed off as an unmarried woman and Pharaoh took her into his palace. It says in verse 17, “But the LORD inflicted serious diseases on Pharaoh and his household because of Abram’s wife Sarai. So Pharaoh summoned Abram. ‘What have you done to me?’ he said. ‘Why didn’t you tell me she was your wife? Why did you say, ‘She is my sister, so I took her to be my wife’?”

One can argue that the circumstances went a step further than flirting. But it still comes down to one person contributing to another person sinning, and innocent people are hurt in the process.

Also the Bible talks about the fact that if we do something in our thoughts it’s the same as actually doing the deed itself. Flirting is being sexual in your attitude and/or words, so it doesn’t leave out the fact that this is defiling the Marriage Bed — which the Bible warns us against doing!

And even if the flirting spouse was up front with the fact that they were married, they’re contributing to another person sinning. If someone flirts with someone who is married, they’re guilty of trespassing into that marriage. They have no business flirting with someone else’s spouse.

So… tempting someone to flirt with you when you’re married is causing them to sin. Is that something we should do — contribute to tempting someone else to sin? Would that spouse want that to be done to their daughter or son? God doesn’t want it done to His either.

And even if you put all of this aside, what about the other spouse who has their marital partner flirting with someone else? How is this cherishing and honoring them (as the flirting partner promised in their wedding vows to do)? How is this “forsaking all others” as promised in the wedding vows? How does this make the faithful spouse feel? I can tell you that it hurts into the core of their being! How is that humane?

It takes an insensitive and/or immoral person to do that to someone else! We’re to be different than the animals. Being creatures of compassion is a large part of what separates us from the animals. I don’t see much compassion in this situation. It sounds more cruel to me!

It all comes down to making the choice of being a promise-keeper or being someone who only cares about themselves —that they don’t care who they hurt in the process. THAT’S what the person is deciding when they flirt with someone else who isn’t their spouse — whether it’s on the internet or elsewhere.

Just because it’s on the internet, it doesn’t mean that integrity is supposed to be removed from our actions. Integrity is who you are, and what you do, when no one else is looking but God. And flirting outside of marriage screams against being a person of integrity — it says, “I’m self-centered and I don’t care who I hurt in the process! What I want is what’s important here!”


22 March 2008 at 10:36 pm
(USA) I’m married and just found out my husband has been flirting with this girl on myspace, but she’s actually a friend of one of his friends. It really does hurt when you are the 100 Percent faith spouse. What he has done is WRONG and totally against everything we vowed to. I don’t know if its an ego thing or what, but whatever it is…it hurts really bad and is dishonest. And I’m to the point where I’m loosing trust.

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Lorrie
16 April 2010 at 10:01 pm
(USA) I need to know if I’m wrong for being upset with my husband and over reacting. I found it on the famous Facebook. My husband has been talking to a woman that he met years ago (she found him again on facebook). He just went through a divorce with his ex-wife and moved into an apartment. Well, she ended up moving in with her family next door to his and they got to know each other. He says they were just friends and he took her to the movies once and held her hand for he says maybe 15 min. And there was no responce out of her so he said he took that as she just wanted to be friends. They went swimming and I have no idea what else BUT he swears they did not kiss of have sex with each other.
She lived there for 3 months or so and moved. Then a few years later he ran into her again and went to her house. He said he sat on the couch and she sat on the complete other side and he said he was very uncomfortable like she didn’t want him there so he left and had not seen nor heard from her.
THEN she found him on facebook. At first it didn’t really bother me but she was doing the xoxox thing which means hugs and kisses. They talked a little about the past and she wished him a happy birthday and told him she remembers how he loved lightning storms and thunder. He was shocked on how she remembered he liked that and she told him a few years back from now she went looking for him in the town he lived in (she was there seeing her mom) and that she was so happy she had found him and was going to tell her mom she found him on facebook. AND his reply, that ripped my heart out, was “you never know her. If we would have spent more time together I probably wouldn’t have asked her to marry me.” We have been together since 2002 and got married in 2005.
I feel hurt bad, that he said that to a woman that he hasn’t seen or talked to in YEARS, let alone they only KNEW each other for 3 months. I did confront him with it cause it tore me up inside so bad. At first he said he did nothing wrong, he just wanted to make her feel good. Then he said he knew it was wrong when he hit the send button. We got into a little discussion about it again the other night because I can’t let it go because I think he has feelings for her that he never got to explore back then. I’m not saying that anything would happen now because she lives in Mexico.
I wrote her pretending to be him and asked her “do you still like me” and she responed “why do you ask me that?” She knew he is married and even asked if I would get mad at them talking. Well, she got back with HIM with the e-mail I sent her. First off, I did it because I wanted him to see that he was giving the wrong impression to her and that she might have feelings towards him. She sent an e-mail to him that said “why wouldn’t you answer my e-mail?” He replied back and said he had not gotten them and he didn’t. I deleated them.
Well, then she replied back, I know because I saw the e-mail and I read it that night before I went to bed. The next morning I got up to see what his response was and lo and behold they had been DELETED. I WAS PI**** so called him and asked why he had DELETED them and what was said. He “told” me what he said (HAHA).
And then another response comes back from her and he called me and told me about that one and told me to get on line and read it. I said no and waited for him to get home and had him get on line and open it and he was right about what she said except for the part “I understand that this jealous” and the “jejeje and don’t worry, you still have my friendship ” He has not replied to that one (YET). He says he is sorry he should not have said it and I have forgiven him but it’s so hard to get it out of my head. I want to so bad because I love him so very much and I know he loves me. So to make a long story short, am I over reacting or did I have every right to be upset? Oh yeah, he did tell me a while back that he likes to flirt and make women feel good. Please respond. Thank you

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John
30 June 2010 at 7:42 pm
(AUSTRALIA) Adultery is in the mind! It is common on the net.

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Granita
14 September 2010 at 6:47 pm
(USA) My husband had an emotional affair that started with, you guessed it, flirting. It doesn’t just go away. You have to deal with the issue and be honest about what is really happening. Our marriage almost ended as a result. I began writing my feelings down until it turned into a book. I had to totally depend on God to see me through. By the way, the book is entitled, When Loving You is Right; but I Want to be Wrong.


Mason
31 March 2008 at 2:05 am
(SOUTH AFRICA) I’m so sorry to what your husband is doing. Is your husband born again? I know what you’re going through and pray that GOD remains in the center of your marriage. Just stay in prayer and tell your husband what it’s doing to you.

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Jean
17 March 2010 at 10:54 pm
(US) I’m sorry you are hurt by this. Don’t feel guilty. You have done nothing wrong! This is grounds for divorce. He doesn’t seem to care about your feelings. You have a right to file for divorce. But, it’s up to you if you want to stay with your husband while he is committing adultery. He is not loving you like Christ loves the church. Wake up an smell the coffee.

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Jessica
16 May 2008 at 9:56 am
(USA) Please give me some advice… I’ve been with my fiancee for two years now. I was browsing "myspace" and to my surprise I found a picture of him in his brother’s birthday party/Halloween party (10/27/07). In this picture he is standing between two girls dressed all sleazy (sexy Halloween costumes). I chose not to go with him to the party. But now I regret not going. In the picture there is one girl behind him with one arm around his waist then there’s another girl in front of him. She’s bending forward and her behind is facing his front…can you picture that? I was so hurt and upset. I confronted him and he said "nothing happened…he was drinking a lot. But that nothing ever happened. He says that he loves me and wants to marry me and that no one could ever replace me. He sounds really remorseful but then again… I don’t know if I should trust him… I broke up w/him… what should I do??

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Jean
17 March 2010 at 11:00 pm
(US) You have all the red flags before you marry this guy. Pay attention to them. Getting married will not stop him from cheating. If he’s not faithful now, then he won’t be faithful later. Tell him you don’t want to marry him at this time. If he loves you then he will start acting like a faithful husband.

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Rose
29 December 2008 at 10:02 pm
(SOUTH AFRICA) My husband has moved out of the house and has been gone now for three months. This final separation is the result of a previous affair and then his "flirting on the internet" which caused me such unbelievable heartache.
We had just completed marriage counseling and had made a re-commitment to each other when this past school girl and neighbor friend made contact on "Face Book." At first I was not at all worried (after all she lives in New Zealand and we live in South Africa) but watched in dismay at the intensity of this relationship growing. Contact on "face book" was no longer good enough so the daily e-mails began. SMSing then began and followed by daily phone calls.
I tried explaining to my husband the hurt he was causing me and that this kind of flirting was wrong. He said that he could not understand my jealousy and I had no reason to object- this was his private life and he needed some space. Needless to say here we are, separated and my husband is in the process of planning his escape to New Zealand to meet up with this lady and there is talk of two divorces and marriage.
God has been by my side over the last few months. I have put my trust in the Lord and no matter what happens I Know there is a plan for me. I would like to warn anybody out there who reads this letter to know that internet flirting is dangerous and hurtful. It can and does break marriages up. Beware the devil is watching and knows just how to trick you.

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Tylyn
16 August 2010 at 4:05 pm
(AMERICA) Rose, I am sorry that you are going/have gone through this. My husband and I were in therapy and our therapist told us that Facebook is now the NUMBER ONE reason for divorce. It just is not healthy on a marriage. We both have an account with facebook (I have all my husbands pass codes). I found a new facebook account that he created. It is just dangerous for those who already have those demons living inside of them. We are heading for divorce I am afraid. Good luck to you!

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Mariah1208
27 February 2011 at 11:17 pm
(USA) Tylyn, It is so true that Facebook is the number one reason for divorce for most couples. In July 2009, I discovered that my husband was having on online affair with his high school classmate.
Every night he was on Facebook and would stay on all night until 5am. He’d always play with her over poker table and that’s where they’d chat and flirt. I was able to find out my husband’s email passwords and read all the emails that they sent each other.
How I wish I did not read them. It hurt so bad and it felt like I was going to go insane. I told my husband to leave and go be with her if that’s what he wants. He begged for forgiveness and asked me to give him another chance. I did. He gave me his passcodes and stopped playing online poker. But the trust issues are still there. I think that would take a while.

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Wounded
12 February 2009 at 5:59 pm
(USA) I am totally hating facebook right now. I resent the female relationships my husband has created for himself. The one’s he has forsaken our vows for. I will never take part in that kind of drama again.
Rose, I will pray for you Sister… I know how much you are hurting and I believe that nothing good will come out of your husbands lies. He will be held accountable to God.
What people don’t realize when they mingle with the opposite sex in this way is that they are betraying the very covenant they made with the Father… They are only causing more pain and misery upon themselves… You can’t serve God and lust… It’s impossible… And God will not bless it in anyway…

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Hurt
22 February 2009 at 9:21 am
(USA) My husband had an affair. We are trying to work out our marriage. Now he has a myspace and talks to other women. I know he is saying things about me and telling them lies about us. He says that there is nothing wrong with talking to them but he is flirting with them. This is the same as cheating.

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Cheyenne
23 March 2009 at 3:17 pm
(USA) Hi, Jessica… cheaters seem to have it in their hearts, but that does not mean they can not change. If you want a man to change their cheating habit, you have to leave them. Then if they want you back, they have to prove themselves. I am sorry to say, but there is NO other way with men because of their make-up. They will always take advantage if that is in their nature. Now… you are not married yet, so I would just leave him and let it go, if you have no children with him. I personally will not tolerate it, and will move on like there was nothing there between us, if that ever happens in my marriage. Of course, women cheat, too… but dealing with us is quite different.

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Megan
9 May 2009 at 5:25 am
(USA) Well, I’m not married or engaged or anything like that. I’m just 15 but have been in a serious relationship with my boyfriend for the past year. He physically cheated on me about 4 or 5 months into the relationship and now he’s just started talking to this girl over myspace and text messaging. He’s never met her before and she lives in a different state. But I was reading through his texts and he was telling her she has a hot body and nice legs and thighs and that he has dreams about her and that she’s so pretty and smart and he thinks she’s an amazing dancer and they send pics. His inbox had over 900 messages from her in the last week so I couldn’t read them all so who knows what else he’s saying. Anyway I was jw… is this normal behavior for guys that girls shouldn’t worry about? Or is it considered cheating?

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Cindy Wright
12 May 2009 at 7:59 am
(USA) Hi Megan, You ask if your boyfriend’s behavior is cheating, and whether this is normal behavior for guys… the answer is yes and no. He is cheating on you if you both have an understanding that you are to be exclusive in your relationship. The fact that you call this a "serious relationship" tells me that you have stronger feelings about the seriousness of your relationship than he does. Someone who is "serious" does not do what he is doing to you in relating as he is to other gals.
If this were my boyfriend, I would run… not walk away and never return — no matter what excuse he gives. But of course, this is your decision. This guy has dishonored you and has put his "needs" above being considerate of someone he claims to care for — that is an integrity issue. From what I can see, your heart will continue to get trampled on more and more as he runs over you to find more thrills with other gals in the future. Please don’t allow yourself to be treated this way. You are not married to this person… so you do not have a marriage covenant partnership with him to work through issues.
As for the chase he is making toward other gals, this is sadly pretty normal for a lot of guys in today’s world because boundaries have been lowered and blatant pursuit for sexual action is considered normal. Yes, their testosterone levels are higher at this age, and that’s a tough thing. But no… that doesn’t mean that they have to act out in this way. They do it because they can.
I pray you will take yourself out of this game. You are created to be more than a piece of meat to be groped at and treated in such a manner. Sex is great… but not pre-mature sex delivered by someone who doesn’t respect you enough to commit himself exclusively to you for life.

May the Lord guide and lead you into His was.

Cheers]]>
If someone is married, why would they think it’s permissible to flirt with anyone other than with their spouse? Not only are they putting themselves into a vulnerable situation where they can fall into temptation (even if they “fool” themselves into thinking they can’t be tempted— “fool” is the operative word here) but they’re playing with the emotions of someone else who shouldn’t be flirting back with someone who is married. It’s called being a “stumbling block” in tempting them to sin.

That other person may not know the person who is flirting with them is married. So, what if they build up romantic feelings for the flirting married person and they eventually find out that this person is married, is that fair? It puts them into a place of pain as they then have to make the decision to tear their heart away from someone they care for or they end up participating in cheating — either way, they lose.

I sure wouldn’t want that done to me if I were single! And I think the person who is flirting should consider that other persons’ feelings also. That’s really being cruel and inhumane to have so little compassion on the feelings of others — to be so insensitive that they would consider doing that to them!

I’m reminded of the Pharaoh of Egypt in Genesis 12 when Abram allowed his wife to be passed off as an unmarried woman and Pharaoh took her into his palace. It says in verse 17, “But the LORD inflicted serious diseases on Pharaoh and his household because of Abram’s wife Sarai. So Pharaoh summoned Abram. ‘What have you done to me?’ he said. ‘Why didn’t you tell me she was your wife? Why did you say, ‘She is my sister, so I took her to be my wife’?”

One can argue that the circumstances went a step further than flirting. But it still comes down to one person contributing to another person sinning, and innocent people are hurt in the process.

Also the Bible talks about the fact that if we do something in our thoughts it’s the same as actually doing the deed itself. Flirting is being sexual in your attitude and/or words, so it doesn’t leave out the fact that this is defiling the Marriage Bed — which the Bible warns us against doing!

And even if the flirting spouse was up front with the fact that they were married, they’re contributing to another person sinning. If someone flirts with someone who is married, they’re guilty of trespassing into that marriage. They have no business flirting with someone else’s spouse.

So… tempting someone to flirt with you when you’re married is causing them to sin. Is that something we should do — contribute to tempting someone else to sin? Would that spouse want that to be done to their daughter or son? God doesn’t want it done to His either.

And even if you put all of this aside, what about the other spouse who has their marital partner flirting with someone else? How is this cherishing and honoring them (as the flirting partner promised in their wedding vows to do)? How is this “forsaking all others” as promised in the wedding vows? How does this make the faithful spouse feel? I can tell you that it hurts into the core of their being! How is that humane?

It takes an insensitive and/or immoral person to do that to someone else! We’re to be different than the animals. Being creatures of compassion is a large part of what separates us from the animals. I don’t see much compassion in this situation. It sounds more cruel to me!

It all comes down to making the choice of being a promise-keeper or being someone who only cares about themselves —that they don’t care who they hurt in the process. THAT’S what the person is deciding when they flirt with someone else who isn’t their spouse — whether it’s on the internet or elsewhere.

Just because it’s on the internet, it doesn’t mean that integrity is supposed to be removed from our actions. Integrity is who you are, and what you do, when no one else is looking but God. And flirting outside of marriage screams against being a person of integrity — it says, “I’m self-centered and I don’t care who I hurt in the process! What I want is what’s important here!”


22 March 2008 at 10:36 pm
(USA) I’m married and just found out my husband has been flirting with this girl on myspace, but she’s actually a friend of one of his friends. It really does hurt when you are the 100 Percent faith spouse. What he has done is WRONG and totally against everything we vowed to. I don’t know if its an ego thing or what, but whatever it is…it hurts really bad and is dishonest. And I’m to the point where I’m loosing trust.

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Lorrie
16 April 2010 at 10:01 pm
(USA) I need to know if I’m wrong for being upset with my husband and over reacting. I found it on the famous Facebook. My husband has been talking to a woman that he met years ago (she found him again on facebook). He just went through a divorce with his ex-wife and moved into an apartment. Well, she ended up moving in with her family next door to his and they got to know each other. He says they were just friends and he took her to the movies once and held her hand for he says maybe 15 min. And there was no responce out of her so he said he took that as she just wanted to be friends. They went swimming and I have no idea what else BUT he swears they did not kiss of have sex with each other.
She lived there for 3 months or so and moved. Then a few years later he ran into her again and went to her house. He said he sat on the couch and she sat on the complete other side and he said he was very uncomfortable like she didn’t want him there so he left and had not seen nor heard from her.
THEN she found him on facebook. At first it didn’t really bother me but she was doing the xoxox thing which means hugs and kisses. They talked a little about the past and she wished him a happy birthday and told him she remembers how he loved lightning storms and thunder. He was shocked on how she remembered he liked that and she told him a few years back from now she went looking for him in the town he lived in (she was there seeing her mom) and that she was so happy she had found him and was going to tell her mom she found him on facebook. AND his reply, that ripped my heart out, was “you never know her. If we would have spent more time together I probably wouldn’t have asked her to marry me.” We have been together since 2002 and got married in 2005.
I feel hurt bad, that he said that to a woman that he hasn’t seen or talked to in YEARS, let alone they only KNEW each other for 3 months. I did confront him with it cause it tore me up inside so bad. At first he said he did nothing wrong, he just wanted to make her feel good. Then he said he knew it was wrong when he hit the send button. We got into a little discussion about it again the other night because I can’t let it go because I think he has feelings for her that he never got to explore back then. I’m not saying that anything would happen now because she lives in Mexico.
I wrote her pretending to be him and asked her “do you still like me” and she responed “why do you ask me that?” She knew he is married and even asked if I would get mad at them talking. Well, she got back with HIM with the e-mail I sent her. First off, I did it because I wanted him to see that he was giving the wrong impression to her and that she might have feelings towards him. She sent an e-mail to him that said “why wouldn’t you answer my e-mail?” He replied back and said he had not gotten them and he didn’t. I deleated them.
Well, then she replied back, I know because I saw the e-mail and I read it that night before I went to bed. The next morning I got up to see what his response was and lo and behold they had been DELETED. I WAS PI**** so called him and asked why he had DELETED them and what was said. He “told” me what he said (HAHA).
And then another response comes back from her and he called me and told me about that one and told me to get on line and read it. I said no and waited for him to get home and had him get on line and open it and he was right about what she said except for the part “I understand that this jealous” and the “jejeje and don’t worry, you still have my friendship ” He has not replied to that one (YET). He says he is sorry he should not have said it and I have forgiven him but it’s so hard to get it out of my head. I want to so bad because I love him so very much and I know he loves me. So to make a long story short, am I over reacting or did I have every right to be upset? Oh yeah, he did tell me a while back that he likes to flirt and make women feel good. Please respond. Thank you

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John
30 June 2010 at 7:42 pm
(AUSTRALIA) Adultery is in the mind! It is common on the net.

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Granita
14 September 2010 at 6:47 pm
(USA) My husband had an emotional affair that started with, you guessed it, flirting. It doesn’t just go away. You have to deal with the issue and be honest about what is really happening. Our marriage almost ended as a result. I began writing my feelings down until it turned into a book. I had to totally depend on God to see me through. By the way, the book is entitled, When Loving You is Right; but I Want to be Wrong.


Mason
31 March 2008 at 2:05 am
(SOUTH AFRICA) I’m so sorry to what your husband is doing. Is your husband born again? I know what you’re going through and pray that GOD remains in the center of your marriage. Just stay in prayer and tell your husband what it’s doing to you.

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Jean
17 March 2010 at 10:54 pm
(US) I’m sorry you are hurt by this. Don’t feel guilty. You have done nothing wrong! This is grounds for divorce. He doesn’t seem to care about your feelings. You have a right to file for divorce. But, it’s up to you if you want to stay with your husband while he is committing adultery. He is not loving you like Christ loves the church. Wake up an smell the coffee.

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Jessica
16 May 2008 at 9:56 am
(USA) Please give me some advice… I’ve been with my fiancee for two years now. I was browsing "myspace" and to my surprise I found a picture of him in his brother’s birthday party/Halloween party (10/27/07). In this picture he is standing between two girls dressed all sleazy (sexy Halloween costumes). I chose not to go with him to the party. But now I regret not going. In the picture there is one girl behind him with one arm around his waist then there’s another girl in front of him. She’s bending forward and her behind is facing his front…can you picture that? I was so hurt and upset. I confronted him and he said "nothing happened…he was drinking a lot. But that nothing ever happened. He says that he loves me and wants to marry me and that no one could ever replace me. He sounds really remorseful but then again… I don’t know if I should trust him… I broke up w/him… what should I do??

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Jean
17 March 2010 at 11:00 pm
(US) You have all the red flags before you marry this guy. Pay attention to them. Getting married will not stop him from cheating. If he’s not faithful now, then he won’t be faithful later. Tell him you don’t want to marry him at this time. If he loves you then he will start acting like a faithful husband.

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Rose
29 December 2008 at 10:02 pm
(SOUTH AFRICA) My husband has moved out of the house and has been gone now for three months. This final separation is the result of a previous affair and then his "flirting on the internet" which caused me such unbelievable heartache.
We had just completed marriage counseling and had made a re-commitment to each other when this past school girl and neighbor friend made contact on "Face Book." At first I was not at all worried (after all she lives in New Zealand and we live in South Africa) but watched in dismay at the intensity of this relationship growing. Contact on "face book" was no longer good enough so the daily e-mails began. SMSing then began and followed by daily phone calls.
I tried explaining to my husband the hurt he was causing me and that this kind of flirting was wrong. He said that he could not understand my jealousy and I had no reason to object- this was his private life and he needed some space. Needless to say here we are, separated and my husband is in the process of planning his escape to New Zealand to meet up with this lady and there is talk of two divorces and marriage.
God has been by my side over the last few months. I have put my trust in the Lord and no matter what happens I Know there is a plan for me. I would like to warn anybody out there who reads this letter to know that internet flirting is dangerous and hurtful. It can and does break marriages up. Beware the devil is watching and knows just how to trick you.

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Tylyn
16 August 2010 at 4:05 pm
(AMERICA) Rose, I am sorry that you are going/have gone through this. My husband and I were in therapy and our therapist told us that Facebook is now the NUMBER ONE reason for divorce. It just is not healthy on a marriage. We both have an account with facebook (I have all my husbands pass codes). I found a new facebook account that he created. It is just dangerous for those who already have those demons living inside of them. We are heading for divorce I am afraid. Good luck to you!

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Mariah1208
27 February 2011 at 11:17 pm
(USA) Tylyn, It is so true that Facebook is the number one reason for divorce for most couples. In July 2009, I discovered that my husband was having on online affair with his high school classmate.
Every night he was on Facebook and would stay on all night until 5am. He’d always play with her over poker table and that’s where they’d chat and flirt. I was able to find out my husband’s email passwords and read all the emails that they sent each other.
How I wish I did not read them. It hurt so bad and it felt like I was going to go insane. I told my husband to leave and go be with her if that’s what he wants. He begged for forgiveness and asked me to give him another chance. I did. He gave me his passcodes and stopped playing online poker. But the trust issues are still there. I think that would take a while.

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Wounded
12 February 2009 at 5:59 pm
(USA) I am totally hating facebook right now. I resent the female relationships my husband has created for himself. The one’s he has forsaken our vows for. I will never take part in that kind of drama again.
Rose, I will pray for you Sister… I know how much you are hurting and I believe that nothing good will come out of your husbands lies. He will be held accountable to God.
What people don’t realize when they mingle with the opposite sex in this way is that they are betraying the very covenant they made with the Father… They are only causing more pain and misery upon themselves… You can’t serve God and lust… It’s impossible… And God will not bless it in anyway…

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Hurt
22 February 2009 at 9:21 am
(USA) My husband had an affair. We are trying to work out our marriage. Now he has a myspace and talks to other women. I know he is saying things about me and telling them lies about us. He says that there is nothing wrong with talking to them but he is flirting with them. This is the same as cheating.

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Cheyenne
23 March 2009 at 3:17 pm
(USA) Hi, Jessica… cheaters seem to have it in their hearts, but that does not mean they can not change. If you want a man to change their cheating habit, you have to leave them. Then if they want you back, they have to prove themselves. I am sorry to say, but there is NO other way with men because of their make-up. They will always take advantage if that is in their nature. Now… you are not married yet, so I would just leave him and let it go, if you have no children with him. I personally will not tolerate it, and will move on like there was nothing there between us, if that ever happens in my marriage. Of course, women cheat, too… but dealing with us is quite different.

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Megan
9 May 2009 at 5:25 am
(USA) Well, I’m not married or engaged or anything like that. I’m just 15 but have been in a serious relationship with my boyfriend for the past year. He physically cheated on me about 4 or 5 months into the relationship and now he’s just started talking to this girl over myspace and text messaging. He’s never met her before and she lives in a different state. But I was reading through his texts and he was telling her she has a hot body and nice legs and thighs and that he has dreams about her and that she’s so pretty and smart and he thinks she’s an amazing dancer and they send pics. His inbox had over 900 messages from her in the last week so I couldn’t read them all so who knows what else he’s saying. Anyway I was jw… is this normal behavior for guys that girls shouldn’t worry about? Or is it considered cheating?

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Cindy Wright
12 May 2009 at 7:59 am
(USA) Hi Megan, You ask if your boyfriend’s behavior is cheating, and whether this is normal behavior for guys… the answer is yes and no. He is cheating on you if you both have an understanding that you are to be exclusive in your relationship. The fact that you call this a "serious relationship" tells me that you have stronger feelings about the seriousness of your relationship than he does. Someone who is "serious" does not do what he is doing to you in relating as he is to other gals.
If this were my boyfriend, I would run… not walk away and never return — no matter what excuse he gives. But of course, this is your decision. This guy has dishonored you and has put his "needs" above being considerate of someone he claims to care for — that is an integrity issue. From what I can see, your heart will continue to get trampled on more and more as he runs over you to find more thrills with other gals in the future. Please don’t allow yourself to be treated this way. You are not married to this person… so you do not have a marriage covenant partnership with him to work through issues.
As for the chase he is making toward other gals, this is sadly pretty normal for a lot of guys in today’s world because boundaries have been lowered and blatant pursuit for sexual action is considered normal. Yes, their testosterone levels are higher at this age, and that’s a tough thing. But no… that doesn’t mean that they have to act out in this way. They do it because they can.
I pray you will take yourself out of this game. You are created to be more than a piece of meat to be groped at and treated in such a manner. Sex is great… but not pre-mature sex delivered by someone who doesn’t respect you enough to commit himself exclusively to you for life.

May the Lord guide and lead you into His was.

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